Temudagu Yong dengan bekas pejuang Mujahidden .. temudagu secaghe maye ye

Assalamualaikum dan Salam Hormat,

Perbualan teman dengan seorang bekas Mujahiddeen. Nama dan latar belakang interviewee dirahsiakan atas permintaan beliau. Bior teman bagi dia huruf 'W' dan teman Yong. Perbualan telah disunting untuk kemudahan pemahaman.

Yong: I want to ask U about your time during Soviet era in Afghanistan. When did U first go there?

W: 1980

Yong: Why did U go there? How did U enter (Afghanistan)?

W: Army Revolution 12th September 1980, and I escaped to Afghanistan. That is a secret (camner dia masuk Afghanistan).

Yong: Sorry...but how did U go...from where? I will not give your name...please...

W: I passed Azarbaycan border and I entered Iran north side, near the Caspian Sea side...

Yong: How did U pass the checkpoint? Did U have passport?

W: Later entered north west of Afghanistan...

Yong: By foot? By bus? By truck?

W: Kunduz and Mazari-i-Sharif. All by foot.

Yong: U had money?

W: Sometimes by donkey. Some money... (But) I lost it when I was passing a river.

Yong: No lorry or truck gave U lifts?

W: Nothing, only by foot!

Yong: What lost? Your passport?

W: No passport.

Yong: U lost money?

W: No official entering. Yes money...

Yong: Illegal crossing?

W: While swimming in the river nite time...I lost all ID and money.

Yong: How many days U walked to reach Afghanistan?

W: 42 days...

Yong: What and how did U eat?

W: Vegetarian like grass, fruit and fish. I fished too much at every river. I'm a good fisherman!

Yong: Didn't U see any villages or people along the way?

W: Yessss. I stole some chickens sometimes!

Yong: You stole chicken? How many times U have to steal for food?

W: One day I saw a group of ducks near a river. I stole one of them and ate it!

Yong: Where was this, what country?

W: Iran, near the Caspian Sea side...

Yong: Where was the owner? Did U cook the duck?

W: Yes I cooked it at nite at the mountain hill. Much part of it was burnt! I could only eat 10%! (Ingatkan dia dah jadi cannibal!).

Yong: Were U alone? U didn't meet any bandits? Bad people?

W: Yes...sometimes.

Yong: What did they do to U? Did U have any weapon?

W: They asked money and said something...

Yong: Did U give them money?

W: We fought and they lost...

Yong: Did U have a gun with U?

W: Always...

Yong: What type? Name of gun?

W: Knife. Gun is gun...

Yong: Must have a name...Baretta, Colt?

W: Pistol...Browning...

Yong: Where did U get it?

W: 13+1 missile...

Yong: What missile? Missile is big! That shoulder weapon?

W: No, no..small pistol. I took some big gun rifles later. Kalashnikov...

Yong: So 13+1 is a small pistol?

W: Yes, small pistol like policeman's pistol.

Yong: Where did U get the Kalashnikov? How did U get the Kalashnikov?

W: With magazine type. I fought with 3 people.

Yong: U got from the bandits?

W: After that I was owner of 3 Kalashnikov!

Yong: Iranians? Did U kill them?

W: Yes, I got from them. Afghani Communist Millitia...

Yong: So this was in Afghanistan already. Did U kill them?

W: Yes Afghani local communists. I didn't kill anyone in my life. They fell down and their life were finished!

Yong: How did they die?

W: Only Allah knows!

Yong: Maybe they cracked their head against some rocks?

W: I don't remember how they died!

Yong: Ok...In Afghanistan, what first thing U did there? Did U meet anyone?

W: I found Turkmen people. They were against Russian millitia.

Yong: What did U do? Only U were there?

W: I lived with them and tought them how to use weapons and fighting. Yes, I was the only one.

Yong: How many Turkmen? Are these Afghan people?

W: But 3 millitia died. What can I do. Many of them. I don't know exactly how many.

Yong: U mean 3 Russian millitia or Turkmen?

W: Mostly Uzbeks. These people can speak Turkish and Persian.

To be continued....

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